Avon Citizens for Change
Community Comments
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4/17/08
Great Job!!! Thank you to all of you who helped support Mary Jane Wolfe.  It has certainly proved that once in awhile, little people can win.  Please accept my small donation with a hug and a smile.  Don't let them sneak in anything in the future!  Do I trust them???  NO!!!

4/17/08
I suggest that the people work together, stand firm, don't give up

4/17/08
Ask Sherrod Brown for help.  Can the BOE be audited?  Or can they be replaced?

4/17/08
I suggest that Riegelsberger be considered as a site for the Middle school

4/15/08

I am sure you are glad things have quieted down with the school board but from all the gossip I hear they are saying not to throw out any of the signs just yet!   Watch out - that group is sneaky~!

 

4/15/08

I ask Avon Citizens for Change what they propose we citizens do for our schools. Avon Citizens for Change cannot stop here, with the stop of eminent domain. I suggest, for the integrity of the organization, that ideas begin to circulate on a solution to the Avon Local Schools crisis that is the huge population growth that has overtaken Avon. Good school systems produce good property values and good citizens. We need a solution for this problem, and Avon Citizens for Change needs support from the rest of the community that supported eminent domain; what better way to do so than to start bringing together the innovative minds of Avon to solve this problem? Where can our school be located instead of Mrs. Wolfe's property? What commercial developers should be forced out to make room for this school in a convenient place that will stand as a compromise to the supporters of eminent domain?

 

4/14/08

I truly respect your efforts to have a positive impact on the community and wish you the best going forward.

 

4/15/08

I would like to help organize a recall for the BOE

4/13/08
Don't trust this Avon BOE at all.  Avon citizens don't forget and stay involved.  They need to disclose financial information as well as any and all plans regarding the schools.  Three of the five board members as well as school superintendent need to go.  Time to clean up. 

4/13/08
We need to continue in our efforts to keep the school board aware of the CITIZENS presence and interest in our schools and the boards decisions that affects our children's education. We may have made them think about their actions and possible consequences of those actions. I think that we have a good school district.


4/11/08
I am so happy things turned out the way they did. Mary Jane is so very fortunate to have crossed paths with you. You and so many supporters stood by her and helped achieve an almost insurmountable goal. It goes to show that united all things are possible. Standing alone we are weak and vulnerable, but together we are strong. This is a concept that this country was founded on and we need to always remember that.

4/11/08
We have an idea re: the new interchange. In December, the Plain Dealer ran an article which stated that an environmental impact study had concluded that although it was going to take the chopping down of 6,000 trees to build the third Avoninterchange, this was going to harm the environment less than the stop and go traffic Avon has using just 2 interchanges.

Fine - we'll take them at their word.  But what we suggest is they be required to PLANT 6,000 NEW TREESIN AVON.  Since they bragged how they didn't need any taxpayer money because they have the financing (probably through Jacobs) - then they should have no problem footing the bill for 6,000 new trees.  The trees should be purchased in local Avon tree farms or nurseries (thereby helping the local economy) and planted around Avon by different school children -done as school outings to promote a greener, healthier culture.  After all, these kids are the ones who are going to have to breath in Avon for perhaps an entire lifetime - and If Avon is going to grow as much as this mayor of ours claims, they are going to need more oxygen then ever - not less!  (We can't very well
complain about someone like Brazil chopping up their rain forest when we are needlessly chopping down all the trees in Avon!) 

Another good thumb rule for zoning for businesses that come in here is that they have to use an existing developed cite.  Look around - there are plenty of businesses that have failed, lots of unused retail space - plenty of concrete already in place - so that
we don't have to destroy a pristine wilderness area to throw up an extra hamburger joint or whatever (the new luxurious police station might have been a good place to have started with this - but what's done is done.)

Please keep up the great work!



4/11/08
I was appalled with the Avon Avenues April 2008.  Not only is eminent domain being misused because it is clearly not a "last resort" but Jim Reitenbach and Dale Smitek admit that the aquisition was planned for a few years. One can only assume that they most likely counted on eminent domain when they built the million dollar football field by the current middle school. Reitenbach wrote that the community "needs to understand" but does he really want us to understand because I see closed door decisions and threats that if we don't cooperate that our children will suffer through a decline in education.  Avon BOE has provided quality education, but the quality of education cannot be tied into the location of education. We live in a relatively small town and the buses still have to drive to outlying neighborhoods regardless of where the schools are. Everyone, please pay attention to how our BOE and City Council members make decisions.  Do THEY speak for the community? From the pondered questions about room temperature, lack of chairs, lack of microphones, lack of facing the people you are supposed to be addressing and lack of recorded meetings- that they are using tatics to keep people away not opening themselves up work in partnership with anyone.
Avon Citizens for Change....keep up the good work. 

4/10/08
Congratulations on your work for Mary Jane Wolfe!  All of your hard work paid off!! Good Job! 

4/10/08
Good Job...My hats off to the committee. Stay connected...I may be the next one to need your services.  I also will never concede to eminent domain! They were trying to rob Mrs. Wolfe. Check what price they agreed to for Jim Gamelias' 16 acres.

4/10/08
Eminent Domain Victory! Thank you for your fantastic effort!

4/10/08
Congratulations on this defeat.  We have a yard sign that it looks like you want us to hold on to for possible future use.  We will continue to help and support your causes.

4/10/08
Let me get this straight?  The board didn't get what they want, so they are pouting? Grow up Mr. Smitek.  Your attempts at discrediting Ms. Wolfe and Avon Citizens for Change won't work.  As I teach my kids you can't always have your way, the same applies to adults. 

4/10/08
When does this end?  We all know we can’t trust the school board.  They didn’t get their way -- had to cave to public opinion and instead of apologizing they now spin ANOTHER web of deceit?  Like a pouting child.  Don’t worry Ms. Wolfe -- we all believe you and support you.  The only people with a hidden agenda are sitting on the present school board.  Avon people we know that we CAN fight back and we need to continue.  When does Ms. Wolfe get to rest and enjoy her life?  If this happens to her, it can happen to anyone.  The big bad BOE bullies are threatened by anyone that questions them.  Please keep questioning them!  Don’t let them slander her or others helping her. 

4/10/08
We are so happy the bd. is not taking the land.  We need to all work together and let the board hear our voices and not think everything is going to be handed over to them (the school board).
Thank you for your hard work and efforts

4/10/08
I have known Mary Jane for a few years and I KNOW FOR A TRUTH that she has NEVER WANTED to sell her property.  They are lying. And you can quote me!!!  Who would believe them?  Have they been honest before this? THE TEAM IS WONDERFUL and we will walk the total distance together.  Thank you Thank you and Thank you, for helping her through this and having the energy to pull all of us together for OUR community.I am so happy to know that there are people like you in this city and we can show that through all this growth we still care about each other

4/9/08
Congratulations to Mary Jane Wolfe, the Avon Citizens for Change, and all the Avon citizens that opposed the BOE’s use of Eminent Domain!  This whole event made me realize that people still care about what goes on around them.  I look forward to voting in a new BOE that does not abuse their power and has a working relationship with the citizens of Avon.  Let’s make sure that the citizens of Avon do not forget before the next election.

4/9/08
Congratulations on this victory.  My gut feeling is this victory is only temporary, but a victory nonetheless in a time where government and corporations really push the little guy around.


4/8/08
Eminent domain actions should require a minimum 4/5ths majority, in addition to public input
 
4/8/08
First, I want to say congratulations and great job for influencing the school board for changing their decision.  Although, I have a bad feeling this may not be over.  They may explore other options and still come back and say Mary Jane's is the only reasonable option.  We shall see.  My second thought is that we must not stop now.  We have to continue to attend meetings and let the school board know that we aren't going away.  We also as I said at our meeting a couple weeks ago need to find viable candidates to run against the current school board members so that situations like this don't resurface down the road.  I think you need to keep the organization alive and still meet regularly.   


4/8/08
Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are all so great for your compassion and work.  God Bless you all!  We need to have a celebration party!  Enjoy YOUR land Mary-Jane


4/8/08
Great News!!! I am so happy for Ms. Wolfe  She can now enjoy her property and keep it in the family.  The Avon School Board made a wise choice by rescinding their resolution to take the property.  Ms. Wolfe, I hope you can enjoy many more years living on your family property

4/8/08

Congratulations to you, Mary Jane and all Avon Citizens that opposed the use of Eminent Domain!  Please keep up the good fight and let me know how I can help.  As a thank you to the Board...I took down my sign but it will sit close by in the garage for next November.

4/7/08
Keep up the Fight!  Maybe we can have the board removed?

4/7/08
Your letter to the Journal was great.  I too am against eminent domain.  The mayor won't come to any meetings because he is a cousin to Mr. Dale Smitek. 

4/5/08
Go Get them!

4/5/08
Willing to do whatever is needed - we are retired and support this group. 

4/5/08
I support the initiative against the Avon School Board and there position on Eminent Domain. 

4/5/08
Where are the other properties that the BOE supposedly looked at for building a new middle school and why are those properties such a bad option that they have to take this woman's property?

4/5/08
Lets recall Smitek, Marsiglia, and Polovich off the board.  I know other cities have done this. I also think Reitenbach's contract should not be renewed.

4/4/08
Thanks so much for organizing this.  We support you 100%

4/4/08
Getting very tired of our school board!

4/4/08
I hope this works!

4/4/08
Wishful thinking that our children attended the catholic schools!

4/4/08
Best of Luck!

4/4/08
I totally back up Mary Jane - my family has been in Avon for over 50 years and I feel as many others - to take our land is unfair - we've worked for it and "no one" has the right to take it from us!!! I went to High School with Mary Jane and know her family - let her keep her land!!!

4/4/08
The school board has gone too far with this

4/4/08
Avon Citizens for Change - keep up the good work

4/4/08
Talk to the teachers, secretaries, custodians and others to get a clear picture of how your money is being wasted and not spent right.

4/3/08 (our first negative comment so far)
Dear so called concerned citizens of Avon. You seem a little full of yourselves. You speak as if your opinion is somehow better than anyone else's. You seem to think that 150 people is the majority of Avon citizens. When you get to 10,000 then you can speak for "the citizens of Avon. We recently had elections for board seats. If your opinion was so popular you should have run for an "elected" seat. You certainly have the right to hoot and howl about your opinion. But you have sunk to name calling and other embarrassing tactics. The current board members are honorable people trying to do the best for "our city" They may not always be right that's for sure. After all they are only human. When a city is growing as fast as Avon there will be unpopular decisions to be made. I always hope our "elected officials" are strong enough to make unpopular decisions. I remember the so called uproar over the bus garages. "The kids health will suffer" went the cry. I have (2) sons that attend Heritage school and they have not suffered the "serious heath issues" that were sure to follow the construction. I am very happy with the Avon school systems. They are a model for other city's to follow. I wish that the effort you are putting into trying to trash the fine people on the school board would go to a better cause. You seem to have a lot of time on your hands that you could spend helping the unfortunate people of Avon. Ms. Wolfe has a right to present her case about her property. She is the rightful owner. The city also has the right to present a case for eminent domain. If the court system finds the city has no right to the property then they will need to find a new path to continue to expand the Middle school. A few unelected citizen trying to act as they know best is not in the best interest of the citizens of Avon. Without eminent domain we would still be traveling down Detroit Rd instead of I-90. There are always tearful stories about how the land needed for growth should not go to help "all citizens" I guess we could have continued to use the old school house to educate the children of this city. They could just learn to live with the crowded rooms. After all I'm sure someone had to give up their land to build the current schools.
 
I will continue to support the elected board members. When the next election cycle begins I will select one of the people that has the courage to run for these difficult position and ignore the weak people that just criticize their efforts without running for these positions.I will again seek out people that will stand up for the people of Avon and not cave into a few people that disagree.
 
That's my feelings.
 
Ron Stokey

4/3/08
Why not use the land between 611 and long rd that is earmarked for a new school and subdivision ( heard from reliable source).  Where do they think all this money is coming from.  We don't have children so any school levy gets close scrutiny by us, but this issue is an outrage.  Just because it is legal doesn't make it moral/ethical.

4/3/08
Hey Marsiglia and Weasel (aka Smitek) how about coughing up the land you own on Long road for a new school?!  Or maybe we, the Avon Citizens should just take it. - we have a need, its convenient and we'll just claim eminent domain.

4/3/08

Who's next after Ms. Wolfe?  Four families threatened in ten years?  Mueller, Traxler, Pickering, Wolfe -- any Smith, or Smiteks names on the list? Reitenbach is just as bad as Smitek people, don't be fooled. 


4/3/08
I am a life long resident of Avon and I hate what is happening.  I am usually not one to get involved in things like this, but I have been contemplating sending my comments to THE PRESS because I am so upset about it.  The city and the school board have made terrible decisions with regard to the future of this community over the years, and now look where they are.  Acting as if they don't understand how they got here - overcrowded schools, no space for a new school.  Poor planning is what it is all about.  Greed is what it is all about.  It's a darn shame.


4/3/08
NO EMINENT DOMAIN!  We support your efforts and wish you success.  Our hearts go out to Mrs. Wolfe.

4/3/08
I really hope we can stop this!

4/3/08
We would like to put a sign in our yard showing our support of Mary Jane

4/3/08
We support what you are doing for her.

4/2/08
Half a million dollars wasted!!!!! For what???? We may not always be so lucky to have a budget surplus...I hope the Board understands that the hard working citizens of Avon (the silent majority) are watching. Please put a sign in my yard

4/2/08
This is an outrage!

4/2/08
As a 30+ year citizen of Avon I am appalled that the school board would approve the seizing of someone else's property, especially when it is so clear there are alternatives.  Bay Village built a new middle school behind the old one which stayed in operation until the move could be made into the new one.  Mary Jane indeed should have the right to keep her land for her future generations.  I grant permission for a yard sign to stop eminent domain.

4/2/08
NO to eminent domain!

4/1/08
This is an outrage!  Where is our mayor and our council people?  How can they just sit back and allow the school board to do this to our community? Someone needs to step in and end this immediately!   The BOE has alienated so many parents -- they have left families with gifted and special needs children angry and bitter.  Now they are going to do this to Ms. Wolfe?  Who's next?  Certainly no one with the last name of Smith or Smitek.  We need this to stop now.  It is time for an all-new Board... I demand a recall. Hope everyone realizes that Mayor Smith and Dale Smitek are first cousins.  Family obviously matters here. 

4/1/08
I am totally against eminent domain.  My heart goes out to Mrs. Wolfe.  I have lived in Avon for 20 years and it just makes me sick that someone can just "steal" your land.

4/1/08
My highest support to Mrs. Wolfe.

4/1/08
The word will be spread!!!  how about a recall on our board members for voting or inpeachment!!!

3/30/08
NO EMINENT DOMAIN!  We support your efforts and wish you success.  Our hearts go out to Mrs. Wolfe.

3/29/08
We support Mary Jane Wolfe.  The schoolboard is not only hurting Mrs. Wolfe, but in the future the children and teachers of Avon, because we will find it diffcult to vote for a school levy if they take her land by eminent domain.  In essence, the children will suffer in the long run.  What will they do with this land when levies do not pass?  Sell it to a developer?  They are a stubborn lot, who have let authority go to their heads.  Since they aren't willing to show that they have done their homework, how can we believe them?

3/29/08
My husband and I were out of town for quite a while and upon returning have read about and seen the signs about this Eminent 
Domain issue.  Our support is against the Board's action and totally for Mary Jane Wolfe.

3/29/08
This is totally out of line for the school district to TAKE/STEAL property from anyone.  You should be ashamed of yourselves.

3/26/08
With all the "facts" that I know.  This is just wrong....we have other alternatives.  In this case, it does not seem warranted. I do believe in eminent domain, but not in this situation.



3/26/08

WE are governed by our consent. Although elections are won by rules, LEGITIMACY is formed through public acceptance. A sure way to let the BOE know their eminent domain actions are not ACCEPTED is to get in their back pocket, so to speak. Start a petition drive, to have the money spent per pupil, sent DIRECTLY to the pupil, via the parents of said pupil!  The parents could then choose the educators of their liking. A Market Driven education system would curtail the arrogance of the present uncompetitive monopoly. A market driven economy is good enough for the NON Government workers. It's about time they are forced to COMPETE for jobs/money. Competition WILL change their tune.                                                                                                                  

3/26/08
I am a life long resident of Avon and I am totally against the eminent domain taking of property from Mary Jane.  This school board has been running out of control for some time. It is time somebody is trying to rein them in. It is long over do.
 
There is other property in Avon available. Also, if they think they HAVE to have this property they need to pay the going price of land in Avon. The developers are paying dearly for the property they are procuring.  I believe when the BOE  bought the property where Heritage North is, they paid around $45,000 per acre and that was several years ago. (Check the county records)
 
Also, the Smitek and the Marsiglia families have both sold property to developers and have made out dearly. The land that Gamilia owns on Long Road that has been rumored that the board might be interested in, was purchased from the Marsiglia's.
Smitek sold a lot of the property on Stoney Ridge where there are now houses. They  also owned the propery where Century Lane south is located. (Check the county records)
 
Keep the heat on and this community needs to remeber this when it is time to vote.
 

3/26/08
I would like to offer a productive solution to this conflict. Let's fire the school board and Reitenbach. That will save us six figures a year. Stumphauser and O'Toole can run our schools for us. It looks like we're paying them enought that they should be doing this pro bono for us already!


3/25/08
As a taxpayer in this city, what gives the BOE the right to not disclose what they are spending our tax dollars for legal expenses on??  They have spent hundreds of thousands of our tax dollars on attorney fees but they wont say what it was for! Don't we have the right to know????  This school board, with the exception of Mr. Romanchok and Ms. Harrison, needs to be kicked to the curb....and FAST!!!!  In the meantime, I'll keep pulling out my checkbook to pay for school fees (including cleaning supplies for the classrooms), field trips and whatever else the school hits us up for through the course of the year!  We have to PAY to watch our own kids play sports and participate in Band-a-la-Mode, which by the way is mandatory if your child is in the band.  Just to name a few. If the school board is going to spend our hard earned tax dollars on things that they "refuse to disclose", we deserve to know!!!

3/25/08

Avon and it's School Board need to really assess if trying to take this woman's land is worth the legal battle, and the backlash that will happen if they continue through with it... If you take her land, you will not pass a levy and you might just start finding people selling their property and picking up and leaving.. then what good will a new school do, with no residents. Leave her land alone and find some other AVAILABLE land to use..

3/25/08

Dale, Angela and Debra,
You are wrong and the people have spoken! You are not representing what is the desire of the community. You are elected officials who will be voted out of office for your arrogance and mean spirited bullying of a landowner.

Dear Susan and Kevin,
Thank  you for standing up for what is right! You are held in high esteem by your community. Now, try and talk some sense into Dale, Angela and Debra.


3/25/08
I am pulling for you, dear! I grew up on the good stuff from your farm and have many memories of going there with my parents.
They need to understand that not all people can be "bought" and there are some things you cannot put a price on. You are one tough cookie. Keep up the good fight and know that we are all behind you!


3/25/08
Having lived in Avon for over forty years with seven children graduating from Avon schools we are understandably in favor of the continuing growth within this system. However, we are more outraged with Mary Jane's eminent domain situation. Please have someone contact me with information re: yard sign placement in favor of Ms. Wolfe when these signs become available.

3/25/08
We are against the Avon School Board taking the land from Ms. Wolfe. 
We support  your efforts and would LOVE to put a sign in our yard.
Thank you,


3/24/08
I find it quite disturbing that the "Leader" of our schools - Mr. Reitenbach - does not even live in our city! Perhaps he is concerned that if he did the board would seize his property as well!!!!


3/24/08
Avon is far from being "fully developed".  There is plenty of land that the school board can consider. 
I am a life-long resident of Avon, almost 50 years, and I went to Avon Schools - but if eminent domain takes Ms. Wolf's property, then I will vote against ANY school issue that arises!


3/22/08
Last night we attended the candlelight "Easter Vigil" at our church. The Vigil lasts close to two hours, so there is much time for "reflection".
I certainly don't want to come across as being on my high horse or anything, but..............
Several times last night my "reflection" wandered to our school board and the events of the last 30 or so days.
I could not help but wonder if "they", on this weekend of highest Christian observation, were reflective of their actions. Do they feel remorse? How do they align their actions against Mary Jane Wolfe with "What would Jesus do?"............................
Sorry............just had to get my thoughts and feelings out there.
I'm off my soapbox....
Happy Easter everyone and especially to you Ms. Wolfe.
T.J. from Avon


3/21/08
I am in agreement with Dave Vargo.  If the school board takes the land through eminent domain, no school will ever be built on that land.  Put the bond issue on the ballot and from this household there will be two votes against it.

3/21/08
Please add my e-mail address to any newsletter that is sent out. I am as outraged as all of you are.
I would like to show support for the cause. How do I get a yard sign? 
How do we get the board replaced in a non-election year.  Is there an impeachment process? 
I understand that a fourth board member is now supporting the Eminent Domain decision.  Please place contact information for that person on your web-site. 
Also, the superintendent is equally to blame for all of this, please place his contact information on the site as well.
 
Thanks - keep up the good work

3/21/08

Although I am not an Avon resident, I have a very strong conviction regarding the eminent domain situation currently taking place in Avon, Ohio 
March 21, 2008
RE: Wolf Property
To the Residents:
     I am extremely disappointed that the Avon City School District has reverted to using the process of eminent domain in order to acquire land for the new school.  Mary Jane Wolf should not be forced to sell the majority of her property along the French Creek.  Ms. Wolf is quoted in a newspaper as saying that she “enjoys the peace and quiet here,” and as the property owner, should be allowed to continue to do so.  As an American, she has the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, which she currently enjoys as the owner of this property.  In my opinion, the use of eminent domain is a violation of the constitutional rights of an American citizen.  I would like to see more discussion of alternate sites for the new school building.         

 3/20/08
We moved here two years ago from Los Angeles believing we'd found a great place to raise our family. It breaks our hearts to see the devestation of the trees for shopping centers and now the outrageous unfairness against Mary Jane Wolfe is beyond comprehension!  Thank you for giving a voice to the citizens that respect the land and the people who are the city of Avon.

3/20/08

Kudos to you that have set up this website & are helping Ms. Wolfe !  Eminent Domain's use in this way is HORRIBLE.  We want to know if you are taking donations for any current and future litigation.  Please feel free to contact me at the daytime phone or David at the evening phone number listed.
This is a fight that every community, big or small needs to pay attention to. 

3/20/08
My husband and I can truly relate to Mary Jane Wolfe's problem.  We are John and Jeanne Traxler and own Traxler's Nursery on Stoney Ridge Road.  About 10 years ago, the the Avon School Board came to us and asked if we would sell part of our property to them for the High School.   Since our property is our business and most of it was planted with trees,we declined the offer.  They then told us to get a lawyer because they were going to take it by eminent domain.  We retained a lawyer, however, he told us there was nothing he could do because the School had every right to take our land.  Now it so happened that the School Board needed to pass a  school levy to build the High School.  We started a letter writing campaign to the Press and Journal.  Soon, everyone knew what
the School Board wanted to do.  That Nov. election was the first time Avon lost a school levy.  After they lost the levy, they dropped their plans to take our property.  They had another spring levy which passed.

3/20/08

This e-mail is directed at Marsiglia, Polovich and Harrison.

What does Smitek have on you? You know that this action is WRONG – you did not even have the decency to look at Ms. Wolfe while she addressed the board. The community is now seeing you for what you are – puppets. If Smitek votes yes – you vote yes, if Smitek votes no – you vote no. Smitek is a egocentric, self-serving, disrespectful, pompous ass – how does it feel to be his pawns in his “master plan”? Can you sleep at night knowing you are destroying a woman who all of her life has supported the schools and the school board?

You will fail – I guarantee it. You will lose your seats on the board and the community will shun you – don’t be surprised if there will be a move in your future. People will talk behind your back – everywhere you go – people will see you for who you are – Thieves, Liars, and Spineless puppets. I hear North Ridgeville is a nice place to live is you don’t have kids – you don’t have kids in the Avon school system now do you?

Another PO’d Avon Resident

 
3/20/08
I just believe this stress could kill her.She has had so many losses in such a short period of time, this is just to much. Somehow this must stop before the city planners rezoned properties for their profit.   They should have known they needed to plan for the children. They knew what the schools were like here; but, no they let builders come in buy land build 300 - 500,000 dollar homes and now the founding families of Avon must pay for all their changes.  The traffic around 83 is awful I can't imagine adding more school buses to the mix. What gives anybody the right to take someone property?  It reminds me of the English and the Indians.  The bully wants what you have so give it to them.  I can't wait till I teach the children that their School was built on land that was taken from a single woman.  Oh sure they are offering her token money but, I bet if her last name was Smith it could be more.

Just my personal  thoughts....



3/19/08

Dear Citizens for Change:
Thank you for taking a stand against the unethical actions of a few.  The Avon school board members are a disgrace to the community.   I was unable to support you and Mrs. Wolfe during the March 18th meeting, but I am writing to you now to offer my support in this matter.  The actions of the school board are unforgivable.  As a registered and active voter, those school board members in favor of the eminent domain will never have my vote or support. Furthermore, I will not support any future school levies for the City of Avon.


3/19/08
Bravo!  Thank you for stepping in and bringing the disgusting treatment of Mary Jane to the forefront. Knowing that she no longer has to face the BOE and city alone must bring a tiny bit of sunshine to her day. We are TOTALLY against the BOE stealing her land by eminent domain.  Where in Avon can you find an acre for $30K?  If we can help Mary Jane in any way, please let us know.  No one should be forced to give up land that they love.


3/19/08
My ancestors helped build this Village and are laid to rest here. Now they are rolling in their graves. I can't image how Mrs. Wolfe feels to have lived here all of her life and and then have family's land stolen  from beneath her. They call this progress!  I call it out of control. Count me in on the plan to hold our elected officials accountable and assist Mrs. Wolfe in her fight against these greedy bullies.

3/19/08
Just wondering if anyone has a ballpark on what it may cost to fight this in court if it comes to it ?  I hear that it will cost allot, but have not heard any figures yet.   I do not know Mrs. Wolfe, but every time I hear about this issue, my blood boils ! no exaggeration ! my teeth clench and I cannot believe this is happening ?  Literally in my backyard. Its her land period. The fact that she even has to fight for it is crazy and beyond me and it angers me to no end.  And the board members that are spearheading this ? They really have to go.   As a community we really have to pull together and do whatever it takes to NOT let this happen to this lady.
Keep up the pressure and good work ! (and Media coverage)I loved that it was splattered all over the front pages of the local papers and the 10:00 news.  Beside the board members, I wonder how many residents you could find that would SUPPORT the boards actions ? I cant imagine finding ONE.



3/19/08
I am disgusted by what the school board is doing.  It would be one thing if Wolfe wanted to sell her land, but she does not so LEAVE HER ALONE. It seems that Avon politicians are catering to a select few more and more and this is just one example.  The citizens of Avon need to stand up for what is right.  Now is the time.  I am thinking civil disobedience.  How about a student walk-out and march down detroit road.  How about a group willing to sit in front of school busses so they can't pick the children up.  Come on people, let our voices be heard.  Let's do something to help Mrs. Wolfe.  Teachers strike why can't the citizens and students?  What a better way to show the school board how we feel than a massive school walk-out on a planned and organized day?  Extreme actions on the part of government require extreme responses on the part of the citizens.

3/19/08
I don't agree with taking personal property without a homeowner's consent.  Who is to say my land won't be next?


3/19/08
To whom it may concern,
I find the attempt to steal Ms. Wolfe's land deplorable.  It is HER land. PERIOD!   I am emailing the entire board that I will be voting against the 3 board members who want this at the next election, and I will also be voting no on every bond issue in the future.  If enough residents email the board with the above sentiments, they might change their mind. Good luck to Ms. Wolfe!

3/19/08
My husband and I feel very strongly that the process of eminent domain to seize the above mentioned property is WRONG. 
We have been residents of Avon for over 40 years and have always supported the Avon Schools.  Our four children all graduated from Avon (the last in 1990) and we feel that its schools are a large draw for new people wanting to move to Avon.
However, the school board's heavy-handed threat of eminent domain to take Mary Jane Wolfe's property when she has no interest in selling it, does not seem to be the best light to shine on our community.  If this is the way you treat residents, we will no longer support your requests for bond issues or anything else.
Your actions are giving Avon a black eye.
We are not acquainted with Mary Jane Wolfe but support her right to not be forced into giving up property that has been in her family for 50 years.
Congratulations to Mr. Romanchok who made a motion to delay the process by 90 days, so a citizens committe could be formed to consider other possibilities.  Unfortunately, no one had the courage to second it.
We believe this issue will be detrimental to the school board's future requests for financial support.  You certainly won't get our votes!


3/19/08
Where does the madness stop?  A few individuals who have empowered themselves with a "SELF RIGHTOUSNESS of PURPOSE" decide with a feeling that a single woman should give up her home, her land and history of the American dream; the persuit of happiness because behind closed doors they have decided to take it away from her but, not without the kiss of Judas.  Money... Money doesn't but peace, doesn't replace all the historic memories she has experiences with her family and her love.  Yet, a schoolboard has decided her life is worth their silver.


3/18/08
No to eminent domain and no to our school leadership.  I will be at the meeting tonight and would like to learn more about Citizens for Change.

3/18/08
I think we should all be taking names and remembering who the board of education is when we go to vote.  People like this should not be running our schools, let them corrupt their children but leave mine out of it.  The new board's mandate should be to replace the superintendent immediately.  Paying him off to go away would be far less expensive than continuing to finance his legal bills while he attempts to crush the opposition through intimidation.  The guy just does not get it.

3/18/08

Dear School Board, 
I have lived in Avon since 1990.  As we have raised our children here we have watched the city and school board activities closely over the years.  Overall, we have been very impressed and pleased with the forward thinking and planning of both governing bodies.  However, since first learning of this eminent domain issue, I have been very disturbed by the school board's actions and intentions.  I am not saying that I think the expansion plan for that site is without merit.  However, it absolutely frightens me to know that there is a potential to force someone to sell their land against their wishes.  I absolutely disagree with that action no matter how sound the expansion plan may be for the schools and the rest of the community.  
Please spend more time considering other sites or working with Ms. Wolfe on her terms, not yours.

3/18/08
Please express my opinion to the Board this evening and let them know their action declaring eminent domain is deplorable.  What kind of people would stoop to this level when the citizens of Avon have given them everything they want.  Our support will certainly come to an end.  The people of Avon have to unite against this action because no one will be safe ever again.  This is a precedent that must not be allowed.  Not now or ever.  
There is no urgent need for this property.  There are too many other properties for sale.  It is incomprehensible that they would use eminent domain on a property not for sale when there are so many others available. 

3/18/08
Hi ---I am a registered voter and Avon Resident.  I grew up on French Creek Road and am a product of the Avon School system.  I currently have a son at the middle school and a daughter at Heritage South.   I certainly recognize the need for a new or a remodeled middle school, but I feel the eminent domain process is not the ethical way to accomplish this goal.
Mary Jane’s property should not be taken away via eminent domain for several reasons:
        1.       There are plenty of other landowners who are willing to sell.  For instance, the property which is earmarked for the Palmer Development.  This involves 2-3 land owners, and is located right next to Heritage South with easy access off Detroit .  These land owners already want to sell, and the sale has not taken place yet.  Why not look into this area?  This property is adjacent to mine, and I see nothing wrong with adding a school in this area – There is plenty of acreage for a middle school.
2.       The Board wants to take 95% of her property and leave her with a tiny lot of 1.5 acres.  Mr. Smitek mentioned his great-grandfather sold property under the threat of eminent domain back in the 1950s.  I highly doubt this was 95% of his land.
3.       The Board wants to rush this process so Mary Jane does not have time to defend her property – that is exactly WHY this should not be rushed.  They are not giving her a fair deal.
4.       Offering $30,000 an acre is absurd given the cost of what property is going for now.  Any lot for development is going for at least twice that amount.
I cannot be at the meeting tonight due to another commitment.  I want to have my opinions heard.  I applaud the 2 Board members who voted against the process to begin.  They are truly great additions to Board – giving some moral value to the city residents.
I would be happy to help Mary Jane in any way possible.  Feel free to contact me to help.

3/18/08

Avon Citizens for Change,
We are unable to attend the meeting this evening (March 18) regarding the Avon School Board's attempt to take property from Mary Jane Wolfe by eminent domain.  We are totally against such action.  There does not seem to be an urgent need to obtain this particular piece of land.  Furthermore, there are many other parcels in Avon that would work for another school.  We believe that the Board is using  this just to get their own way and are not looking at what the consequences of such action could mean.  We still do live in America and should be able to make our own decision to sell or not or to  accept or refuse any offer that may come up.  This action makes us wonder about the creditability of the Board who is overseeing the entire Avon school system and to what extent they will go to get their own way!

3/18/08

My family is relatively new to Avon and have our son in the schools for the first time this school year.  We are appalled at what the school board and superintendent are doing to this poor woman.  I feel they are tarnishing the reputation of a school district and community.  I have voted yes for every school initiative since we've moved here but will not vote for a bond issue to build a new school on stolen land.  Has anyone started a fund for Mrs. W.'s legal fees?  If this actually goes to court, I'm sure she will need all the help she can get.  We will be at the school board meeting tonight.  Thanks!

3/18/08

Eminent Domain-NO, this is a democratic country not a communist country where the individual proprties belong to the government.

3/18/08
As a resident of Avon, I feel the eminent domain decision was not a wise one .  In my opinion, it does not represent the values for which the people or the schools stand for.


3/17/08
Avon
School Board,
We are disgusted with your initial actions to take Mary Jane Wolfe’s property through eminent domain.  As parents of Avon students, we want a good education in a safe environment.  We want the best programs and teachers to prepare our children for college.  We can achieve all of this without bullying property from Mary Jane Wolfe.

We are fortunate in Avon to still have available land.  Why are you not interested in land that is available for sale?  You do not have the support from the majority of the people in Avon .  Your actions are absolutely deplorable!  How do you go to sleep at night knowing what you are trying to do to her?  How would you sleep if you were being forced to sell your property that you wanted to keep?  Furthermore, would you appreciate receiving under market value for your property in this economic state?  If you can answer these questions honestly and still get a good night sleep, than you are all clearly the wrong people making decisions that affect our children.

Provide growth for our schools the responsible way.  The responsible way is not always the easiest way, and in fact, it seldom is.   Avon wants to remain a community that cares about its people.  Your actions represent the opposite! 

3/17/08
Please continue your fight however it must be done to stop the taking of your land by the Avon Board of Education via eminent domain. Do not let the  bullish, bold members of the Avon Board of Education  continue their superior attitudes by blowing off the public land owners who want to keep their land.  I am not speaking for all of the members of the board - I am speaking to only those who voted in favor of this measure.  Tell them to Look Elsewhere.  I am a life-long resident of Avon and have gotten increasingly disgusted with the attitude of the current board.  First with the rude treatment of a very respected citizen and our former superintendent of schools, Mr. Robert Barnhart, and now by their utter disregard by just taking what they want knowing full well this is not a critical time-sensitive issue.   Be reminded that Mrs. Ruth Plas and the board struck a deal that both parties wanted regarding the sale of the current high school property.  Mrs. Wolfe does not want to sell her land.  This is the difference.  Look elsewhere.  I am also vehemently opposed to this Center Road location as many others are.  Get these schools off the main highways.  State Rt. 83 is a nightmare right now already  and will only increase with time and more shopping centers.  Please tell the board to investigate and advertise for land in Avon.  We are fortunate to have much vacant land yet and certainly there are other parcels to choose from without destroying Mrs. Wolfe's home and land that she dearly wants to keep.  Bottom line is this - all I hear around town since this eminent domain has raised its head is that we need to vote off Smitek, Marsiglia and Polovich in the next electionI cut out and saved 3 letters to the editer in The Cleveland Plain Dealer last Sunday that came from readers in University Heights, Vermilion and Amherst under the heading "Avon Schools Deserve Scorn for Land Grab".  Apparently our school board is getting a black eye from residents even outside of Avon who are appalled as we are by this unwarranted and vicious action.

Keep up the fight.  We are with you in your struggle


Our e-mail was meant as encouragement to  you and our support of your group.  Please let us know if we can help in any way.  We are already spreading the word to fellow residents who are without exception also on your side.

3/17/08

I think this school board is out of control. Do not let them take eminent domain of the property.

3/17/08
To the Avon School Board, Avon Citizens for Change, et al.
Unfortunately we won’t be able to attend the Avon School Board meeting on March 18th, but I did want to express my outrage of what is being done to Mrs. Mary Jane Wolfe. My wife and I are both graduates of Avon High School , Class of 1981.  We recently moved back into Avon last year after being away for about 15 years but have always considered ourselves “life long residents”.   I grew up a neighbor of Mrs. Wolfe’s and my parent’s home is still on the other side of French Creek from her farm.  What a disappointment with most of this current School Board!

I find it extremely reprehensible that the Schools Board has badgered Mrs. Wolfe for years and is now resorting to “strong-arming” her with eminent domain. It’s obvious that Mrs. Wolfe has always wished to remain and retain her family farm as is.  If her ultimate goal was speculating to sell and wanting the highest price on her property she would’ve have sold out to a developer long ago! If that had been the case what would the School Board be doing now?  How about using whatever that option would have been instead of taking most of someone’s life long home. But now the School Board, because of its lack of foresight years ago has supposedly lost out on nearly all of the “desirable properties” because the city refuses to control the developers and the limit development within the city to any reasonable degree, and now Mrs. Wolfe is being made the scapegoat.  She is, for all intents and purposes, being taken advantage of because she had no desire to ever sell out to developers over the years, even when offered maximum dollars. Plus, to add insult to injury, she is now being punished for not selling before and having the school board come in and just take almost all of her property for a price significantly below-market!

I find it ironic that taking Mrs Wolfe’s property is viewed by the school board as the “cheapest” option but for her the “cost” appears to be immeasurable since her family has owned the property for years and years and even developer money was never enough to tempt her.  But now her desire to remain undisturbed and not to sell out over the years may cost her hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not more, and all she’ll end up with is a tiny corner of what is rightfully hers!

 OPTION #1: Yes, refurbishing the old High School/Middle School will probably cost more than invoking eminent domain – probably even after the legal costs and time that will be wasted on this battle by both parties. But just because a refurbishment will cost more money and Mrs. Wolfe’s property happens to be in a convenient location is no reason to force someone to give up most of their life long home and property that has been in the family for years.  However, I find it hard to believe that a new middle school can’t be built on the property already owned by the school district - even without touching the football stadium and field!  If for some reason there isn’t enough property there (hard to believe though) then the district needs to bear the cost of refurbishment and not just assume it’s OK to take away someone’s home and property because it the easiest and most convenient solution!  What would been done if Mrs. Wolfe had already sold the property 15 years ago?  If refurbishment and adding on is disruptive to the students then move the 8th graders to the unused classrooms in the new wing of the High School if necessary,  7th-12th were all in the current middle school back in the mid 1990’s, and keep the 7th graders to one end of the building while the renovations are occurring.  With all of the growth in the city and with so much new mid to high end residential, retail and industry coming in, worst case, I find it hard to believe that these additional rebuilding costs can’t be ultimately absorbed with some careful planning and appropriate budgeting. 

 OPTION #2: If tearing down and rebuilding or adding on is truly so prohibitively expensive, invoke eminent domain on property that has little or no significance to its owner other than pure speculation. In other words, take the property of a developer instead of one of the few remaining family farms in the city?  The rural setting and the few family farms left are the very heritage on which Avon was built and make Avon attractive to new families and to the city’s make up.  If eminent domain is a viable way to take private property for a school, then shouldn’t it be viable to take a developer’s acreage?? If it isn’t viable, then why is it being used on Mrs. Wolfe?? This option would solve several issues and probably give the School Board much more positive support from the community.  First and foremost it would allow a lifelong, loyal resident who truly loves her way of life in Avon to continue on as is and to give the piece of mind to others who may want the same.  Second it would help some with the overzealous growth that is currently taking place which is forcing this situation to begin with – the need to quickly build more schools while having a supposed lack of “available” property suitable for a new school because the developers have speculated on most of the significant properties in Avon .  Punish the opportunistic developers for not having this foresight and caution when buying up all of the properties rather than a loyal, dedicated lifelong small farm family.  SO - Why isn’t the School Board targeting the developer’s properties for eminent domain?? Of course, other than the obvious answer that the developers have more money and attorneys than Mrs. Wolfe.  That would only imply that eminent domain is the correct solution to the problem BUT only as long as the current owner has less money and resources than the city is willing to expend – developers need not worry!

For example, there are several large tracts of land on the SW corner of Jaycox and Detroit that have been surveyed and plotted out to be Palmer Village by Jim Gamellia of AVON LAKE .  Why not come in and take that property by eminent domain?  In fact, I believe Gamellia doesn’t even own any or most of those properties yet! I hate to see all that woods and farm land disappear, but if the owners are getting rid of it anyway, I’d much rather see a school there than have it be developed.  I’m sure the school, at the very least, would be better with leaving wooded areas and green space than a developer.  What about the properties directly East of Heritage North and South or across the street from Heritage – take that away from the commercial developers through eminent domain!  Lutheran West is directly next door to the old Westgate shopping plaza and there are no issues there! What about on the NE corner of Jaycox & Detroit which was recently cleared for “farming” purposes, per Mr. Jim Piazza.  How about taking that for the school, the sewers are now in there and it’s already cleared!  We sure don’t need another eye sore of a strip mall which everyone knows is ultimately going there.  At least the school will: serve a better purpose, won’t be some future eye sore, won’t contribute nearly as much to the currently overused underdeveloped infrastructure, and not likely end up half empty once city’s the rapid growth eventually transitions to another city.  Given the choice, I’m sure most Avon residents would rather have a school than some strip mall there! In fact, even now the infrastructure of Detroit Road is much better suited for the increased traffic of a middle school than either 83 or Stoney Ridge Rd – what are you going to do to improve those roads if the board takes Mrs. Wolfe’s property?  How about the property across from Avon Commons that Romes owns? Take that with eminent domain.  This land also has sewers and is slated for another strip mall which no one in Avon needs.  Take a property that no one is passionate about and which has no significance to anyone other than some developer who has no history, allegiance, loyalty, nor regard for the long term overall quality of life in Avon.

Finally, I’ve read in several newspapers and heard on news reports such as on WTAM/Bill Wills on Monday morning 3/17 about how the board and Dale Smitek are trying to make a comparison on Mrs. Wolfe’s situation versus how Mr Smitek’s family.  Apparently Mr. Smitek’s grandfather was affected by eminent domain in the 1950’s when the then high school now current middle school was built.  Mr. Smitek, I feel this repeated comparison to Mrs. Wolfe’s situation is very insulting and belittling!  In the 1950’s, when my parents moved to Avon, it was considered “the sticks” and route 83 (or route 76, then) was a country road and large tracts of property in Avon were plentiful.  I’m sure that the amount of property owned by the Smitek family was much greater than the 25 acres or so that the school was threatening to take by eminent domain!  In Mrs. Wolfe’s situation, the Board wants to take 95% of her property, assuming she is allowed to keep 1.5 acres of her family’s original 25 acres.  In addition, if Mrs. Wolfe wants to remain in Avon and live on a comparable piece of property, as she has been accustomed to most to her life, I would have to believe there is no way she could acquire property remotely comparable.  According to the School Board they supposedly can’t find a parcel like that now, so how is a private citizen supposed to!  To make a somewhat more relevant comparison, though still not the same, did the school take 95% of your grandfather’s property in the 1950’s, Mr Smitek?? Also, it was stated that ultimately eminent domain was not used in that situation.  What was the final compensation or resolution that convinced your grandfather to sell the necessary acreage to the schools?  If nothing else, at least he would have had ample opportunity and a realistic chance to acquire a comparable piece of property within the city limits, something which Mrs. Wolfe more than likely does not.

 Sincerely,
 Erik H. Samoson


3/17/08
I am aghast at the arrogance of the Avon school board. 
Please place my "vote" AGAINST the board's decision to take
her property by eminent domain
Avon Resident & Voter


3/15/08

We feel that it is wrong for the school board to take someone's property.  Eminent domain is a socialist concept that has no place in a democratic country. 

The school board has not exhausted the other possibilities for expansion. 
We do not support this action by the school board and will not support future levies for schools if this action is allowed to take place.
 

3/13/08
Pass this on to the Avon School Board-
The thought of the Board of Education taking Mary Jane's property is just heart wrecking. I believe these old Avonites have forgotten what it is to be a Avon son or daughter and a land owner that does not  want to make a profit on the land that is loved for the open fields. And to kick Mary Jane when she was sick !  I hope they try and think this whole need of only this property is really unfriendly and UN-AMERICAN. I can not be at this next meeting. I will be paying way more attention to what this school board is really doing for our city in the future. I didn't think we would every have a problem with these elected members.

3/13/08
I totally agree with your flyer, they have no right to take that womens land. The city and school systems should of thought of
all this as they were building all these new homes.  Why should she have to suffer, because they didn't foresee the need.  It's poor planning on the cities part.

3/7/08
It really upsets me how Avon is strong arming the people to sell their homes to developers and now the school. You are in my prayers! Go get them!!

3/14/08
Dear BOE:
I know there are other alternatives than to take a woman's home from underneath her.  I don't know the whole story, however, I assume she doesn't want to go, so leave her put.

3/13/08
We are outraged at the school board's vote to begin eminent domain proceedings!  There are other properties that are available, the city should have planned better with all this growth!   Ms. Wolfe should not be pressured or forced to give up anything! Try doing your jobs!  That's why you're in office, not bullying people out of their family property!  
Do the right thing...now!

3/11/08
I am not in favor the the Avon School Board doing eminent domain on Mary Jane Wolfe's property.  There is still land available to the Avon School Board in Avon that could be bought to build more schools if needed.  If Ms. Wolfe wanted to sell her property, than that is a different matter.  If she does not, why would the school board persue such a thing??  The public is watching you, Avon School Board. 
    1. You overcharge kindergarten parents.
    2.  You build bus garages where you said you would not put them.  Why did you put a huge pile of dirt there, then move it at a huge additional cost, to build the garage. 
    3.  At board meetings, you do not answer questions directed at you but humilate people.
    4.  Now you are trying emint domain on a lady who does not want to sell and is fighting cancer.
    5.  Why was the new board member not brought up to speed about this topic.  Is there something the "three board members" are hiding??  It is rude and insulting to not inform him.  He was VOTED into the position.  Allow him to be knowledgeable and able to vote on it.
Avon resident, tax payer and voter.

3/11/08
It is wonderful that you are doing this. Now, if only the school board would listen to someone... anyone!  I read a letter to the editor in the Press that strongly stated the case, which I am sure you are aware of (the letter.) 
I cannot make Tuesday meetings as the kids each have a different sport that night!  I a wish you well and hope that you can get through to the board.  I have seen them steam roll other groups, even when there are great numbers of Avon residents opposing them.   It is a sad day when we cannot all work together for our town's betterment.



 
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